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	<title>Comments on: So You Want to Plant a Church, eh?</title>
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	<description>a real guy trying to live on mission</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Rasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Rasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, good stuff.

I laughed so hard at your thoughts, and the way you stated them. So true!

I guess many good christian folk sort of go thru the intitial phase of glamorizing church-planting. I am curious how God may have used people in their pride and ego to go do something just for the sake of changing them, and eventually planting something. I think God can use pride. He does USE people, right?

I definitely agree with the needing to know what God wants for you to do. There is no other way to have confidence and endure something hard, although I speak theoretically and from my imagination mostly.

The challenges of church planting also increase dramatically when one goes to a place where their language is different. I guess English can be spoken, but yet be so different too.

I heard some interviews with a lay movement in Gr. Britain who use vocational ministers minimally, thus minimizing costs. They constantly train lay leaders in the works of ministry and empower them. I am imagining the cost of that financially would be significantly less.

I know that much church-planting taught these days talks about certain ways and means, but unfortunately they seem very &quot;American&quot; or capitalistic, which can be darn right offensive in certain cultures. I am challenged when I know the cultural and philosophical shifts taking place in America, which have already taken place in Europe a generation or 2 ago.

There are many ways to skin a cat, and I am trusting God to reveal what&#039;s best for Marseille, France in His timing.

Thanks for the challenging post. I hope to be up your way in the next couple years. By the way, we move to France this summer to start a one year intensive language school. Should be quite the challenge.

May the Lord continue to give you insight and revelation!
Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, good stuff.</p>
<p>I laughed so hard at your thoughts, and the way you stated them. So true!</p>
<p>I guess many good christian folk sort of go thru the intitial phase of glamorizing church-planting. I am curious how God may have used people in their pride and ego to go do something just for the sake of changing them, and eventually planting something. I think God can use pride. He does USE people, right?</p>
<p>I definitely agree with the needing to know what God wants for you to do. There is no other way to have confidence and endure something hard, although I speak theoretically and from my imagination mostly.</p>
<p>The challenges of church planting also increase dramatically when one goes to a place where their language is different. I guess English can be spoken, but yet be so different too.</p>
<p>I heard some interviews with a lay movement in Gr. Britain who use vocational ministers minimally, thus minimizing costs. They constantly train lay leaders in the works of ministry and empower them. I am imagining the cost of that financially would be significantly less.</p>
<p>I know that much church-planting taught these days talks about certain ways and means, but unfortunately they seem very &#8220;American&#8221; or capitalistic, which can be darn right offensive in certain cultures. I am challenged when I know the cultural and philosophical shifts taking place in America, which have already taken place in Europe a generation or 2 ago.</p>
<p>There are many ways to skin a cat, and I am trusting God to reveal what&#8217;s best for Marseille, France in His timing.</p>
<p>Thanks for the challenging post. I hope to be up your way in the next couple years. By the way, we move to France this summer to start a one year intensive language school. Should be quite the challenge.</p>
<p>May the Lord continue to give you insight and revelation!<br />
Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is indeed a tough job. Advancing God&#039;s kingdom is also the greatest work and adventure to be a part of no matter what your role is or where you serve.

Yes, awesome!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mike Watkinss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://michaelwwatkins.blogspot.com/2009/02/sin-tax-economic-boost.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A Sin Tax: Economic Boost?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is indeed a tough job. Advancing God&#8217;s kingdom is also the greatest work and adventure to be a part of no matter what your role is or where you serve.</p>
<p>Yes, awesome!</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Mike Watkinss last blog post..<a href="http://michaelwwatkins.blogspot.com/2009/02/sin-tax-economic-boost.html" rel="nofollow">A Sin Tax: Economic Boost?</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Gretchen Fagan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gretchen Fagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I know why I don&#039;t want to church plant. Only if Jesus physically manifests himself and commands me to!

You guys are great and my prayers are with you.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gretchen Fagans last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://gretchenfagan.blogspot.com/2009/02/thoughts-on-red-and-pink-day.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thoughts on the Red and Pink Day&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I know why I don&#8217;t want to church plant. Only if Jesus physically manifests himself and commands me to!</p>
<p>You guys are great and my prayers are with you.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Gretchen Fagans last blog post..<a href="http://gretchenfagan.blogspot.com/2009/02/thoughts-on-red-and-pink-day.html" rel="nofollow">Thoughts on the Red and Pink Day</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! This post is right on! Having been part of a church plant for a year and a half now, I totally agree with all that you&#039;re saying. It&#039;s so worth it though.  We have experienced the love of Christ in new ways that we never could have imagined.  It&#039;s been messy, discouraging, frustrating, and beautiful.  You know exactly what I mean!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! This post is right on! Having been part of a church plant for a year and a half now, I totally agree with all that you&#8217;re saying. It&#8217;s so worth it though.  We have experienced the love of Christ in new ways that we never could have imagined.  It&#8217;s been messy, discouraging, frustrating, and beautiful.  You know exactly what I mean!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Mabry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Mabry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: Myssi Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myssi Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you are, people need to know.  I&#039;ve been thinking lately how church planting is a little like teenagers who want the baby, but then have to go to the class where they take care of the doll... hmmm..:)  But kids in the right time are awesome.  keep up the great writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you are, people need to know.  I&#8217;ve been thinking lately how church planting is a little like teenagers who want the baby, but then have to go to the class where they take care of the doll&#8230; hmmm..:)  But kids in the right time are awesome.  keep up the great writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Mabry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Mabry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Myssi!  Keeping it real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Myssi!  Keeping it real.</p>
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		<title>By: Myssi Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myssi Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and amen... great post Adam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and amen&#8230; great post Adam.</p>
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